Most overrated artist?

[Devil King]

Should be an interesting thread.

Won't put up a poll because it's too subjective.

Will throw out some names though (which I may or may not agree with)

The Beatles, Metallica, Tool, The Darkness, Faith No More, Radiohead, The Mars Volta, Nirvana, U2...

Or whoever.

[freeflow^]

I'd have to say the Mars Volta are pretty overrated. I saw them live when they opened for System of a Down and I couldn't make out any single instrument. It was just a huge wall of fuzzy noise. They do sound better on CD but they get too much praise for being so experimental. I think experiments fail if you can't replicate them live.

[Devil King]

Yeah. People praise them as though they are the best band ever, and it gets annoying.

While they are a good band, they aren't nearly as good as idiots claim they are. I do enjoy their music quite often, though.

[LagDragon]

I love topics like this. It'd hard to choose just one though.

I'll go with Nirvana, as I usually do.

[Hyde]

The Beatles. The Grateful Dead. The Rolling Stones.

The Big Three of "meh".....

[freeflow^]

I feel people hear "She Love's Me Yayaya" and other radio friendly songs and they miss out on the real gems of their albums. The Beatle's have some amazing tunes. The White Album and Sargent Pepper's are so awesome.

They are overrated though :)

[Electric Banana]

I honestly have no idea who the Mars Volta is. I've always heard about them, but I don't listen to the radio very much, and when I do, once I hear something I don't like I change the channel.

My opinion of the number one most overrated musician/group is The Beatles. Of all of the songs they've made, I can count on one hand the songs I've actually liked (and the best, for me, was Imagine). I just don't get what the big deal is about them.

Runner up would have to be Metallica. When they made their S&M album, everyone was going nuts "omg it's rock with striiiiings." Yeah, it's cool and all, except that my favorite band, Superchunk, was doing rock with strings before Metallica thought about it. As for music of theirs I've liked? The Black Album... Period. I actually had it on cassette (you guys remember those things, right? ;)) when I was younger...

I don't really know if there are more bands that I feel are overrated, I'll have to think about it...

[Baby]

LOVE the Beatles and the Rolling Stones <3

Bono and his band of brothers.

[moogle]

I'd have to say the Mars Volta are pretty overrated. I saw them live when they opened for System of a Down and I couldn't make out any single instrument. It was just a huge wall of fuzzy noise. They do sound better on CD but they get too much praise for being so experimental. I think experiments fail if you can't replicate them live.
I may be a huge Mars Volta fan, but even then, I don't think that's a very fair assessment. I haven't seen them live myself, but I've listened to plenty of fan recordings that still hold up just fine. There are differences between a live show and studio recordings, and some things either can't or don't need to be replicated live. From a technical standpoint, I don't see how their live performances suffer any more than any other band. I appreciate the intensity that goes into their performances, and no one can deny they've got that.

I honestly have no idea who the Mars Volta is. I've always heard about them, but I don't listen to the radio very much, and when I do, once I hear something I don't like I change the channel.
They're not extremely well-known, at least compared to any other band one might call overrated. Plus they obviously don't get much play on the radio, what with most songs being at least five minutes. They're probably one of the most polarizing bands ever. It's kind of funny.

[Powerslave]

The Beatles?!!? But they're SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO good!!111 I guess the thing with the beatles is that a lot of the big songs I guess aren't all that great. Considering the huge fame and the massive album sales, I would imagine "Hello, Goodbye" or "Love Me Do" make 'em seem super overrated. But then you go and hear all of the albums and thay're all so great, and their stuff is so varied too. The White Album, Sgt. Pepper's (I mean, For The Benefit of Mr. Kite? AMAZING), Abbey Road (the inbedded 'concept' album in it, beauty). I'd list songs but they're far too many. I think for most people, if given enough time, start enjoying the Beatles. I remember a year ago I moved into the university residence and my future roomates had barely heard beatles song and had no interest in them. "Old people music", you know. But they sure converted, and became avid listeners little by little over the course of the year.

Anyway, I guess for me the prime overrated band is probably Aerosmith. They have their good moments, but it's one of those bands that a lot of people obsess over that I never really got into it. Maybe I just never really gave them enough of a chance.

[freeflow^]

I may be a huge Mars Volta fan, but even then, I don't think that's a very fair assessment. I haven't seen them live myself, but I've listened to plenty of fan recordings that still hold up just fine. There are differences between a live show and studio recordings, and some things either can't or don't need to be replicated live. From a technical standpoint, I don't see how their live performances suffer any more than any other band. I appreciate the intensity that goes into their performances, and no one can deny they've got that.

I feel a bands records should be able to be replicated live, if not, then why are you trying to sell it to fans? With the digital progression of music, you can make almost any noise and combination work well. To me experimental sounds and techniques kind of lost their edge after programs like Garage Band and programs became involved. Volta has too many instruments, and way too many tracks on a song. When you try and have 10 members performing complicated lead type progressions, it just doesn't turn out live. Having bongos and drums together, several guitars, pianos, other strings and such makes for a mismach of sound. They get so much praise from Rolling Stone, and NME for being the most innovative 'prog' rock band, but they can't replicate it live. I don't know what part of an artists' CD doesn't need to be replicated live, but maybe you can tell about that one. Files from a soundboard are alot different than what you hear live as well, since they just get the feeds from the amps and monitors, not resonance from soundwaves that travel across the stadium.

[Devil King]

I feel a bands records should be able to be replicated live, if not, then why are you trying to sell it to fans? With the digital progression of music, you can make almost any noise and combination work well. To me experimental sounds and techniques kind of lost their edge after programs like Garage Band and programs became involved. Volta has too many instruments, and way too many tracks on a song. When you try and have 10 members performing complicated lead type progressions, it just doesn't turn out live. Having bongos and drums together, several guitars, pianos, other strings and such makes for a mismach of sound. They get so much praise from Rolling Stone, and NME for being the most innovative 'prog' rock band, but they can't replicate it live. I don't know what part of an artists' CD doesn't need to be replicated live, but maybe you can tell about that one. Files from a soundboard are alot different than what you hear live as well, since they just get the feeds from the amps and monitors, not resonance from soundwaves that travel across the stadium.

So you're saying a band should replicate the song the exact same way every time?

[Polygon]

The Jonas Brothers.

I'm sick of hearing about them and they aren't even close to being good.

[freeflow^]

So you're saying a band should replicate the song the exact same way every time?

No? I'm saying you should be able to make out the instrumentals, lyrics, and concepts of a song when played live. There's too many things going on for anyone to make out any particular sound. The vocals are blurred so much that it's just abunch of echoy pitch to the audience, and the three guitar riffs all sound blurred as well. I like when bands switch up songs, I just want to be able to make it out.

[Atlas]

Or Three Doors Down.

[Sibek]

Coldplay
Green Day
Nirvana
The Beatles
The Killers (though I don't think they are highly rated)

[Indigo]

Rolling stones and Nirvana. Even though I love Nirvana, they are a bit overrated.

[Abominari]

Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, U2, anything Mike Patton does, Tool, Madonna, Underworld, The Pixies, Led Zeppelin, Foo Fighters, The Ramones, Smashing Pumpkins, Muse, The Doors, Iron Maiden, Rage Against the Machine, Sex Pistols, Opeth, Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, NOFX, John Williams...

EDIT: Add Red Hot Chili Peppers, Dream Theater, My Chemical Romance, Kanye West, Gorillaz, Marilyn Manson, Sigur Ros, Death Cab for Cutie...

I'll add more when I can remember them.

[Indigo]

I disagree with half of the ones you listed.

[Powerslave]

Tool, Led Zeppelin, The Doors, Iron Maiden, Opeth, AC/DC

*FAINTS*

[LagDragon]

Foo Fighters, Smashing Pumpkins, Iron Maiden, Rage Against the Machine, AC/DC.

*FAINTS*

[Indigo]

If you ask me Opeth is not appreciated enough.

[Hyde]

Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, U2, anything Mike Patton does, Tool, Madonna, Underworld, The Pixies, Led Zeppelin, Foo Fighters, The Ramones, Smashing Pumpkins, Muse, The Doors, Iron Maiden, Rage Against the Machine, Sex Pistols, Opeth, Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, NOFX, John Williams...

I'll add more when I can remember them.

Based on this list I can only surmise that Abom listens to Britney Spears and R. Kelly.

[Abominari]

Close. Xtina and Montell Jordan, actually.

[Hyde]

Close. Xtina and Montell Jordan, actually.

No Bobby Brown for added.....shall we say....perogative?

[Abominari]

Nah, I don't like Bobby Brown. His indie rock voice pisses me off.

[Hyde]

Nah, I don't like Bobby Brown. His indie rock voice pisses me off.

Okay, I lost it over this. I laughed literally out loud.

[DrunkSwashbuckler]

Most ridiculously popular bands are over-rated... except for RRCP. They are all that is glory.

[Indigo]

If someone degrees with this then GTFO, but Angels and Airwaves are stupidly over rated, they should go back to a garage or something.

[LagDragon]

Angels and Airwaves aren't that popular. They haven't really received any critical acclaim. So basically, I don't know what the fudge you're talking about, Fallen.

[Atlas]

They definitely suck, though.

[Mark]

Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, U2, anything Mike Patton does, Tool, Madonna, Underworld, The Pixies, Led Zeppelin, Foo Fighters, The Ramones, Smashing Pumpkins, Muse, The Doors, Iron Maiden, Rage Against the Machine, Sex Pistols, Opeth, Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, NOFX, John Williams...

I'll add more when I can remember them.


BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Devil King]

Armor for Sleep, August Burns Red, Dresden Dolls.

[LagDragon]

Angels and Airwaves aren't that popular. They haven't really received any critical acclaim. So basically, I don't know what the fudge you're talking about, Fallen.

Insert "Armor For Sleep" where Angels and Airwaves is, and "Vlad" where Fallen is.

[Devil King]

Insert "Armor For Sleep" where Angels and Airwaves is, and "Vlad" where Fallen is.

ha.

T-they're pretty popular over here, all these trendy kids wearing their t-shirts and talking about how godly they are.

[Cyrus the virus]

The Black Album... Period.

Considering this, your opinion absolutely does not count.

I'm actually kind of surprised Abom didn't list Metallica. They seem like the kind of band he would hate to see admired, but maybe he, like me, appreciates the old albums. Or maybe he pretends Metallica don't exist, which is kind of cool too.

I'll go with the Rolling Stones as #1, U2, Pink Floyd, Aerosmith, Dream Theater, Zeppelin and many more.

I pretty much consider a band overrated if they have more than 4 dozen songs, and only 4 of them don't blow ass.

[Indigo]

Angels and Airwaves aren't that popular. They haven't really received any critical acclaim. So basically, I don't know what the fudge you're talking about, Fallen.

They don't deserve being famous because they're so shit, to me that's overrated.

[Atlas]

Considering this, your opinion absolutely does not count.

.

That's right, dude... the Black Album rocked so hard. Great album.

[Powerslave]

The Black Album was ok, but not really on par with the previous 4. Kinda trails off half way through. Too bad that they DIED after that one.

[moogle]

Nine Inch Nails, The Mars Volta, U2, anything Mike Patton does, Tool, Madonna, Underworld, The Pixies, Led Zeppelin, Foo Fighters, The Ramones, Smashing Pumpkins, Muse, The Doors, Iron Maiden, Rage Against the Machine, Sex Pistols, Opeth, Chris Cornell, AC/DC, Dave Matthews Band, Pearl Jam, NOFX, John Williams...

EDIT: Add Red Hot Chili Peppers, Dream Theater, My Chemical Romance, Kanye West, Gorillaz, Marilyn Manson, Sigur Ros, Death Cab for Cutie...

I'll add more when I can remember them.
I wonder if you're just trying to piss off everyone in this thread. I may agree with slightly under half of those. But you're coming across as the guy who just likes to hate everything popular.

[Hyde]

I wonder if you're just trying to piss off everyone in this thread. I may agree with slightly under half of those. But you're coming across as the guy who just likes to hate everything popular.

That's pretty much exactly who he is.

[Devil King]

I'll add Slipknot.

And Dream Theater.

[DrunkSwashbuckler]

Any band I dislike that you love is over-rated.

There. I've summed up this thread.

[Devil King]

What bands do you personally think are overrated?

[Cyrus the virus]

That's right, dude... the Black Album rocked so hard. Great album.

I'm saying if that's the only album somebody likes, their opinion doesn't matter. Liking that album and not Master of Puppets is sacrilege and moderately embarrassing! I hate the Black album, but I see the appeal. But to say that's their only good album is hilarious and makes the say-er look like a crazy person.

[Abominari]

I wonder if you're just trying to piss off everyone in this thread. I may agree with slightly under half of those. But you're coming across as the guy who just likes to hate everything popular.
No, I legitimately feel that the artists I listed are overrated. How am I coming across as someone who likes to hate everything popular? I've hardly had any input in this thread save the list in question. Fact is, I could list bullshit like Nickelback, but I don't really see them as being overrated on account of their being the butt of everyone's negative jokes anyway.

Also, just because I feel an act is overrated doesn't mean I don't like them anyway. Is it a crime not to feel like Led Zeppelin is the ultimate rock band?

That's pretty much exactly who he is.
I enjoy being contrary for the sake of argument, sometimes, but otherwise I'm pretty upfront about how I feel about things. You don't know me that well.

Any band I dislike that you love is over-rated.

There. I've summed up this thread.
What about someone you love, that I also love. Like your mom. All night long.

Also, yes, I do think Metallica is overrated. No, I don't like the Black Album (AT ALL) or anything that came after. Yes, I do like the earlier shit. Yes, I do prefer Megadeth.

[DrunkSwashbuckler]

Ah ha! Luckily for me, my mother abandoned my family for a new life in Puerto Rico, where she lives with her Latin lover, Esteban, leaving my witty post's integrity in tact! Your valiant attempts at discouragement have given you nothing!

Also, yes, I do think Metallica is overrated. No, I don't like the Black Album (AT ALL) or anything that came after. Yes, I do like the earlier shit. Yes, I do prefer Megadeth.Metallica is the gateway drug of metal; you listen to them as a middle schooler and then progress to better music. If you're in your 20s and you still find yourself in love with them, it's time to sit back and reflect.



Who would you consider to be a band that is under-rated that bests the talent and music of a similarly genre'd over-rated band? Ala if you feel that Dave Mathews Band is over-rated (I agree), what band does what he does better that deserves more recognition?

[Atlas]

I'm saying if that's the only album somebody likes, their opinion doesn't matter. Liking that album and not Master of Puppets is sacrilege and moderately embarrassing! I hate the Black album, but I see the appeal. But to say that's their only good album is hilarious and makes the say-er look like a crazy person.


Don't be so presumptuous. Of course Master of Puppets is good and arguably better. Gosh, Cyrus... how shallow of you.

[Abominari]

Not very good at the artist association game -- I'd probably end up pairing Dave Matthews Band up with some polka troupe without even realizing it. Instead I'll just create a thread to touch on shit we like (as opposed to underrated/overrated stuff).

[LagDragon]

They don't deserve being famous because they're so shit, to me that's overrated.

In that case, you could rhyme off thousands of bands and artists that fall into that catergory. We're talking about most overrated bands/artists, and Angels and Airwaves aren't even close.

[Indigo]

Meh, my aim with that statement was to generate conversation with someone. And so I did ;).

PS: I still think AAA are shit.

[LagDragon]

Generate discussion, eh? Great job. Now the thread's dead.

And I'd like to point out that Dave Matthews band isn't exactly overrated either. They just suck.

[Hyde]

And I'd like to point out that Dave Matthews band isn't exactly overrated either. They just suck.

To Quote a famous Canadian I know...

"I Concur.." ;)

<3youlag

[Atlas]

Generate discussion, eh? Great job. Now the thread's dead.

And I'd like to point out that Dave Matthews band isn't exactly overrated either. They just suck.

I heard they put on a great live show. Not bad for a park/arts festival type of thing, you know?

They're just the type of group you go see when you're in the mood for a tasty hotdog and some fun tunes at your Downtown Tuesday Night type of deal. You can't really blame the guys for selling out for the cash.

No, I take that back. You could blame them, Lag.

[Hyde]

They're just the type of group you go see when you're in the mood for a tasty hotdog and some fun tunes at your Downtown Tuesday Night type of deal. You can't really blame the guys for selling out for the cash.

I don't even believe in the CONCEPT of "selling out."

It's one of the most absolutely ridiculous things to say about a band....they started accepting money to do what they love, they just sold out. What the ****?

[Atlas]

I think that way, too. Although, for cynical bastards you have to use a whole different vernacular.

[Powerslave]

Sometimes it's a useful label. Just look at Metallica.

[Raidou]

Oh shit, he is going to hate me so much for saying this, but... The only artist I can think of right now would probably be Hyde, yes our very own Hyde a.k.a. Joker. Unless he send me and everyone else here in AllRPG one or two of his famed CD albums for further evaluation, I still think that barking at your own success is just uncool. Blame yourself yaa, you overrated yourself I say. Make sure you send it immediately if you don't want others to think otherwise.

Abom's list is f**king ridiculous! Madonna is overrated? Get out of here you jerk.

[LagDragon]

I'm going to pistol whip the next person who says "vernacular".

[Cyrus the virus]

Don't be so presumptuous. Of course Master of Puppets is good and arguably better. Gosh, Cyrus... how shallow of you.

There is no argument for the Black album being better than Master of Puppets. The Black album is ****ing tit garbage, even if it showcases vernacular usage of the english language.

VERNACULAR is a word I often use improperly or sloppily.

[Hyde]

Oh shit, he is going to hate me so much for saying this, but... The only artist I can think of right now would probably be Hyde, yes our very own Hyde a.k.a. Joker. Unless he send me and everyone else here in AllRPG one or two of his famed CD albums for further evaluation, I still think that barking at your own success is just uncool. Blame yourself yaa, you overrated yourself I say. Make sure you send it immediately if you don't want others to think otherwise.

Wow. Completely and totally unnecessary and intentionally trying to cause a problem.

Sorry Raidou or whatever the hell your name is...I'm not famous, therefore can't be "overrated" as no one's really rated me. As for sending you all free shit.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

"Make sure you do this if---" and there's where I cut you off as I don't really care what you think.

You have a nice night now.

[Devil King]

Oh shit, he is going to hate me so much for saying this, but... The only artist I can think of right now would probably be Hyde, yes our very own Hyde a.k.a. Joker. Unless he send me and everyone else here in AllRPG one or two of his famed CD albums for further evaluation, I still think that barking at your own success is just uncool. Blame yourself yaa, you overrated yourself I say. Make sure you send it immediately if you don't want others to think otherwise.

Abom's list is f**king ridiculous! Madonna is overrated? Get out of here you jerk.

That's f**king ridiculous! Hyde is overrated? Get out of here you jerk.

[Abominari]

Madonna is overrated?
In every possible way.

[LagDragon]

*pistol whips Cyrus*

[Electric Banana]

Kinky.

[UO_Duck]

I tend to like most everything... I don't really think any particular band is overrated. *shrugs*

[Less Than Liz]

I think Nirvana is overrated. I can appreciate the whole grunge movement, etc etc but if Kurt Cobain hadn't died there would not be half as much of an obsession as there is now.

I think that way, too. Although, for cynical bastards you have to use a whole different vernacular.
Sometimes you remind me so much of Owen Wilson's character in The Royal Tenenbaums.

[Atlas]

There is no argument for the Black album being better than Master of Puppets. The Black album is ****ing tit garbage, even if it showcases vernacular usage of the english language.

VERNACULAR is a word I often use improperly or sloppily.

Actually, I was stating that Master of Puppets is easily better...

Nevermind.

[Cyrus the virus]

Ooooooooooooooooh well that is most good of you, sir.

[Matron]

Master of Puppets is easily favorite. Welcome Home (Sanitarium) is one of my "blast it til my ears bleed when I'm depressed or pissed off" songs.

In fact, I think I'll go do that now. Not cause I'm depressed or pissed off, just because.

[Jarrid]

In every possible way.

Agreed.

I do miss your King Crimson album art for your avatar, however.

[Abominari]

I'll probably cycle between album covers and other stuff. The lawn gnome I've got now was actually a photo taken by former AllRPG member (WAAAY back) called Azrael (Mike fo realziez), who I did eventually meet in person on a couple of occasions. Lived up in San Jose, don't know what he's up to these days; he and DiViandante and DiVi's fiance Julie and I all went to Disneyland together. Like, seven years ago.

[Matron]

I knew that picture looked familiar.