Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne/Lucifer's call

[Indigo]

So I'm playing this game right now and I need some advice on some stuff.

For example, some demons evolve, correct? But demons level up much much slower than the main character, so shouldn't I just fuse new demons every time I level up instead of grinding slow growing demons?

Also I've heard of the "uber pixie" thing, how do I get a pixie to be level 80?

[Phakiel]

You know the first demon you get, the pixie? Keep her. She will evolve to a High pixie and then a Queen Mab. She can do that, it doesnt matter as long as you never fuse her. Eventually you?ll get her to become a 80 level pixie during the game's main sidequest, the Kalpas.

As for advise:

Dont get cocky. You might think you have a battle beat but you are really close to lose it if one enemy hits a weakness. These guys dont **** around, the A.I. is not as mean as Digital Devil Saga's or persona 3's but they will still **** you up, not to mention that if your main character dies, you are ****ed.

You will be grinding a lot in this game so your demons more than likely will evolve quickly. It is always better to have your demons evolve before fusion, and to register them at the terminals, always register them.

Develop or have demons with supporting spells like Sukunda and stuff. These types of spells are a must for some boss fight, possibly all of them.

[Indigo]

Okay I'm gonna list my party for you people so you can see how I'm doing.

Eru(main character)Level 28
Dis Level 26
Zouchou Level 27
Kikuri-Hime Level 25

I'll add on to this with my strategy and skills tomorrow, stay tuned kids.

[Phakiel]

You aint getting the 80 level pixie then.

EDIT: Wait Eru? Jesus Christ, you are even fruty when naming your character.

[Sibek]

Typically, the evolved demons are usually better than the demons you can get out of the fusion at the level and have the added benefit of the higher level allowing for possible better fusions. Not to mention that evolved demons are required for completing the compendium. They also retain the attacks from their previous form.

The List: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps2/file/582958/34564

Note about evolution: you have to be the level (or higher) of the evolved form in order for evolution to occur. So demons like Lillim are useless for evolution until you are 80, which means you can always fuse a lillim and get one much later.

To get the uber pixie, you have to reach the fifth kalpa of the amala labyrinth which is available when you recieve the last candelabrum (kill the trumpeter). There is a room that will change the demon composed from the pixie you recieved at the beginning (My suggestion: Never fuse the pixie and just evolve it to Queen Mab).

Finally, The auto button is your friend and will make any sort of grinding a breeze.

[Luisfe]

For early to mid game, get Tornado. And from the first Ice magatama, get Fog BREATH.
And when you get the Magatama with Focuse, learns the ****ing skill. You will need it.

You can fuse the pixie. But NEVER EVER GET RID of the resulting demon, or sacrifice it. If you do, you are screwed and can't get her.

[Raidou]

IMO dump the uber-pixie quest, is over-rated, it just waste one of your precious slots. It does come with the most powerful healing spells but there are others which are equally good that can give you Mediarahan.

Advise:

Spend your Death Stone wisely. Not all special demons live up to their name, e.g. Dante is useless! There is one however which is especially good, the High Priest that can steal MP and and heals easily for your party.

Your current party sux. Try and get a demon with Attack All like that special demon in motobike. I also highly recommend getting Amaterasu - the prayer skill and high level special fire spell is too good to resist. Anyway, always balance your party with good magic users and physical fighters.

Fogbreath skill is a must for most difficult bosses later.

Use your main hero turns wisely as he is the only one that can use item.

[Indigo]

Okay I'm gonna list my party for you people so you can see how I'm doing.

Eru(main character)Level 28
Dis Level 26
Zouchou Level 27
Kikuri-Hime Level 25

I'll add on to this with my strategy and skills tomorrow, stay tuned kids.

Okay let me continue.

Main character: Tornado, Force Boost, Resist Force, Counter, Analise, Shock, Warcry and HP boost 10%.

I hate Zouchu, don't ask my why I have him.

Dis is great, good power, good skills and mine is just about to evolve.

I don't see what's the big deal Kikuri-Hime, I heard she was good but she doesn't seem as good as I expected her to be.

Right now I just killed Dante for the first time.

[Raidou]

High Priest is good mainly for the infinite MP your party can have with her around. You don't have to worry about running out of MP and MP items anymore.

[Void]

Frost Breath is a must have for a good portion of the game. Also, make sure you work out whether you want to focus on physical or magic. You can do both, but it's much easier if you pump up one, and just throw in some safeguards.

Sadly, someone stole my copy of SMT3. That's two copies I've lost, now. The first was the limited edition. :(

[Phakiel]

I used Fog Breath until the very end. Great skill.

[Luisfe]

Dante is not exactly useless. It's just that he becomes QUICKLY outclassed by your endgame demons. He can't be upgraded via mitama, and he levels up HORRIBLY SLOW.

[Matron]

I don't think I used Dante at all once I got him, it was more, I put the time in to get him because I could, and that was it.

[Nickoten]

Spend your Death Stone wisely. Not all special demons live up to their name, e.g. Dante is useless! There is one however which is especially good, the High Priest that can steal MP and and heals easily for your party.

Are you sure you use a Death Stone to get Dante?

[Sibek]

I don't know about you guys but I think Dante's stinger is probably the second most useful attack in endgame SMT:N (first being DEATH FLIES). Especially when you're training and you get demons with high HP like Aciel/Abaddon, the rate of auto kill is so high that you can get him in one try and not worry about their evil high counter. He even has support move that raises his attack by 50% making any sort of strength mitama useless.

[Phakiel]

I only used Dante because when I played Nocturne I was still a DMC fan. Like Louie says, he becomes outclassed very quickly.

[Luisfe]

Are you sure you use a Death Stone to get Dante?

You don't. You don't fuse him, he joins you.

[Phakiel]

Raidou didnt mean that he would use a Death Stone to get Dante, thats why he used a period after saying "Spend your Death Stone wisely". Its not that hard to understand.

[Raidou]

I'm sorry for the confusion. I was typing like a Tornado without much of a thought to properly paragraphing the sentences. What I meant was, don't spend you death stones to get useless special demon like that skeleton spanish matador. Yaa, Phakiel understands me alright, you're the man!

[Indigo]

Okay after reading this thing, I got really confused so I started a new game. Don't worry I'm already up to level 17. Okay so I'm meant to keep high pixie in my main party until the end of that dungeon thing? or can I just keep her in my stock? Also not all demons evolve at my pace as I have noticed, is there a guide you people use to see what evolves from what or something like that?

Also My character is now going to be a strict elementalist.

Question: is it worth to improve Luk and Agi status when I level up?

[Raidou]

You need to have high luck if you wish to enter some of the rooms in the kappa.

[Indigo]

You need to have high luck if you wish to enter some of the rooms in the kappa.

How high?

Edit: WTF is Kappa? This game's names really don't succeed on being memorable.

[Raidou]

Kappa is the Amara deep/ levels.

[Nickoten]

It's Kalpa. They're memorable for me because they're references to a unit of time in Hinduism (Around 4 billion years, or a day to Brahma).

And thanks for the clarification Raidou. Personally I think the one demon most worthy of a deathstone is Daisoujo. I mean I've fused other ones that have good skills (I think one of the riders has a good autokill move?), but he's the only one I had near the end game. Afterward you might as well go for Shiva/Vishnu/Metatron/etc so I didn't really bother with the deathstones after a point.

Edit:

Okay after reading this thing, I got really confused so I started a new game. Don't worry I'm already up to level 17. Okay so I'm meant to keep high pixie in my main party until the end of that dungeon thing? or can I just keep her in my stock? Also not all demons evolve at my pace as I have noticed, is there a guide you people use to see what evolves from what or something like that?

Also My character is now going to be a strict elementalist.

Question: is it worth to improve Luk and Agi status when I level up?

It's probably too late, but keep Focus no matter what. Seriously, your character will be an end game badass with it. You can keep High Pixie in your stock and even fuse her if you want, just so long as you keep track of what she becomes and don't lose her. I've heard you can even sacrifice fuse her (I wouldn't try it), just don't dismiss her.

[Indigo]

I have yet to learn Focus actually, but I know how good it is.

I'm now level 26 and my party is:

Uzume level 22(I just used her for her force void so I could go against the matador)
Dis level 23 (Massive magic power, great support)
Makami level 25 (Fog breath, powerful physical and magic attack, good support)

I don't know what to get to replace Uzume, care to help?

[Luisfe]

You CANNOT Sacrifice her. The point is that she can be one of the demons that you sacrifice to make a new thing, that way the new demon will remain on the top of the list.

If you sacrifice her, you lose your shot at the uberpixie. Not much is lost, but it is neat to have her (especially since she has a couple free skill slots that you can fill with mitama + sacrifice fusion).

[Indigo]

Question:is Black Frost good?

[UO_Duck]

How high?

Edit: WTF is Kappa? This game's names really don't succeed on being memorable.

It's Kalpa*, and all the names are derived from mythologies, legends, and religions around the world. You can't get more "memorable" than that.

[Luisfe]

Question:is Black Frost good?

He is a tank and resists everything. He is pretty good as an assist character, even if he can't do much on the raw damage area.

He does resist everything, though.
I always get the Black Frost.

[Indigo]

So can anyone give me advice on what demon I should use to replace Uzume?

Also most of the demons I have now have learned most of their skills, should I use them as sacrifices for a new fusion or should I keep the demon in the case of me liking the skills, because I really want a second fog breath, and since my Makami has it and has also learned all of his skills...

[Nickoten]

You CANNOT Sacrifice her. The point is that she can be one of the demons that you sacrifice to make a new thing, that way the new demon will remain on the top of the list.

If you sacrifice her, you lose your shot at the uberpixie. Not much is lost, but it is neat to have her (especially since she has a couple free skill slots that you can fill with mitama + sacrifice fusion).

Are you sure? GameFAQs always tells me you can do that. I've never actually tried though, **** that.

[Contagion]

Haven't played a turn-based RPG in a while, feels nostalgic! Just started today on hard mode, got about 3 hours in at the end of that Network you travel through after going to that mall. My demons at the moment are High Pixie, Zehn and that wierd ass broom demon (wierd name too.) What are some good demon fusions?

[Phakiel]

Man I hated that demon. Fused him faster than a prom queen gets shagged at a party.