who do you think is the cheapest fighting game boss?

[scorpion]

personally I think magaki from kof xi is the cheapest boss ever made. I swear magaki defines what it is to be cheap.

could a mod please change the final option from gill to other I put that there by mistake and can't seem to edit my poll.

[Sushi_b]

Gill always seemed really cheap to me. I don't know, he just has too many moves. Bison was always a little bit unfairly faster then you it seemed, but never so unbeatable. Akuma was pretty bad at times, just too damn fast.

[Raidou]

Onslaught is a joke. it shouldnt be there at the first place. Can be easily defeated with a few rounds of super special projectile moves.

Duke of KOF Impact is another push over. Can be easily defeated with any characters from the roster. Also, he no longer is the end boss in KOF Impact 2. I don't remember that stupid alien character, he is a little tougher than Duke but no where difficult for my terry bogard/ kim/ k'/ rock.

M. Bison is very tough in Street Fighter Alpha Max 3 (PSP) in the last world tour fight. Super cheap because you need to go against TWO M.Bison instead of one. They will do the psycho crusher one after another, and the special bar of them is always full! CHEATER!!!

Shin Akuma is indeed cheap in SF but not as cheapo as compared to Super Mr. Karate in SVC.

Geese Howard was tough only in Fatal Fury series.

Why no Omega Rugal in the list? Hmm... ok probably he can be easily defeated after he do his special kick. Just go behind and combo all the way. I think is the same thing for Krizalid as well. Rugal's daughter Abel is fast but very weak super special.

Magaki? Yup he is super cheating. Don't remind me of him, can't even go near if you are not using the suitable character. As compared to Orochi, he is mega bad ass.

p.s: i think only admin like Hyde, Joe, or Blue can edit.

[Brian]

It's really Magaki. Gill isn't really cheap. Just learn how to parry and you'll make it.

[King Zeal]

Where's Alpha-152 from Dead or Alive 4?

[Luisfe]

Magaki. Yes. For sure.
Rugal, Igniz, Goenitz, Zero.

Hell, let's just say "SNK bosses" because they do have goddamn SNK boss syndrome.

[Brian]

Rugal was a decent boss. If you're reffering to Omega Rugal then yes. Just say KOF bosses.

[Luisfe]

Rugal was a decent boss. If you're reffering to Omega Rugal then yes. Just say KOF bosses.

Dude, no. SNK bosses in general.
Geese? Krauser? Mr. Big? Young Geese? Gaoh? Amakusa?
Graaaaaah each and every one of them is a pain in the ass.


Edit: Oh god OMega Rugal.
GENOCIDE CUTTER GENOCIDE CUTTER GENOCIDE CUTTER KAISAH WAVE GENOCIDE CUTTER

[Blackdragon]

I dont' think I've had such a hard time with end bosses as I did with Guilty Gear Accent Core. That bitch with the guitar had some kind of screen attack that was hard to avoid and it raped my health bar, blocking it also did crazy amounts of damage. I ultimately stopped trying. I believe I came into the GG world a bit too late, so I have next to no skill in that game, but it was on easy, so...I just thought it was pretty ****ing cheap. She had no problem spamming that move over and over.

[Brian]

Dude, no. SNK bosses in general.
Geese? Krauser? Mr. Big? Young Geese? Gaoh? Amakusa?
Graaaaaah each and every one of them is a pain in the ass.


Edit: Oh god OMega Rugal.
GENOCIDE CUTTER GENOCIDE CUTTER GENOCIDE CUTTER KAISAH WAVE GENOCIDE CUTTER...ahaha hahaha ahhaha genocide cutta haha

Ok , Gaoh I'll understand but they did fix him up in Samurai Showdown 6 along with Amakusa shiroh. Only flaw is..Gaoh's other side...

BUT. The Majority is KOF though.. So luckily this knocks off Kojiro, Kain Heinland, King Lion, Jyazu, Silber, Grant, Sissy, Rage of the Dragon's boss and uh..others.

[Luisfe]

I dont' think I've had such a hard time with end bosses as I did with Guilty Gear Accent Core. That bitch with the guitar had some kind of screen attack that was hard to avoid and it raped my health bar, blocking it also did crazy amounts of damage. I ultimately stopped trying. I believe I came into the GG world a bit too late, so I have next to no skill in that game, but it was on easy, so...I just thought it was pretty ****ing cheap. She had no problem spamming that move over and over.

I-No is doable.
Except in GGXX's Dizzy Storyline path. Lose once, YOU GET THE ENDING YOU ALREADY HAD. GOD DAMNIT I NEED THAT LAST ENDING TO GET JUSTICE, OH **** YOU GAME.
Ahem. I mean, yeah, she has some cheap moves, but Megalomania can be easily avoided. One, just time your double jump, the others, just stay the hell away, and go to the safe zones.


Ok , Gaoh I'll understand but they did fix him up in Samurai Showdown 6 along with Amakusa shiroh. Only flaw is..Gaoh's other side...

BUT. The Majority is KOF though.. So luckily this knocks off Kojiro, Kain Heinland, King Lion, Jyazu, Silber, Grant, Sissy, Rage of the Dragon's boss and uh..others.


Oh goddamn you. Kain Heinlein is horrible. I had BLOCKED Sissy and the boss of Rage of the Dragons from my mind.
Rage of the Dragons boss is actually impossible, goddamn that guy.

Sissy is fun, but horrible, though.

[Cyrus the virus]

I ****ing hate Sagat from Street Fighter II.

TIGER TIGER TIGER

I finally get in range.

PERFECTLY TIMED TIGER UPPERCUT TIGER TIGER holy balls

Edit: Or is it Hyper? Hyper suits his personality more.

[scorpion]

Where's Alpha-152 from Dead or Alive 4?

I've never played doa 4 so I have have idea who that is.

[Luisfe]

TIGER UPYOURBUTT.

[Raidou]

It is true that sometimes the sub-bosses are much tougher/ trickier such as: Zero from one of the KOF series. But never Sagat. Just combo that fellow will do.

[Cyrus the virus]

There are no modern 'combos' in SFII. I mean, there are in a way, but the trick is getting close to this guy without him uppercutting you.

[Raidou]

There are no modern 'combos' in SFII. I mean, there are in a way, but the trick is getting close to this guy without him uppercutting you.

I'm not talking about super combos.

For example, I can kill Sagat easily in original SF2 using Guile using the following move:-

1. Jump over hit him with a heavy hand
2. Next, while in squating position, medium/ light hand once
3. Flip quickly immediately with the special slash up kick
4. Finally, before he can even wake up, do the special glitch invinsible throw (sonic boom using combination of heavy hand and kick) again and again until he run out of energy.
5. PERFECT!

[Cyrus the virus]

Except he uppercuts you before #1 connects.

[Luisfe]

That is why it is the TIGER UPYOURBUTT

Seriously, Sagat is harder than M. Bison.

And speaking of that, I am so going to use Sagat in SFIV :P

[Raidou]

Except he uppercuts you before #1 connects.

Timing dude. You gotta study his fighting pattern. Sagat difficult? Never for me. Is even much easier to KO him with Ryu since he can make opponents confuse easily.

[Brian]

Heh.. Sagat will end up being easier just like he was in SFA3.

[Cyrus the virus]

Timing dude. You gotta study his fighting pattern. Sagat difficult? Never for me. Is even much easier to KO him with Ryu since he can make opponents confuse easily.

Have you ever played SF2, you liar? :p His only pattern is to throw little energy attacks and then uppercut you when you get close. And he can uppercut at seemingly any time.

Or do you play on the easiest difficulty or something? :p

[Luisfe]

TIGER
TIGER
TIGER
TIGER
TIGER UPYOURBUTT

That's Sagat's pattern. And I hate it.

[Raidou]

You guys are a joke in fighting games. If you don't want to play offensive, play defensive instead. When Sagat uppercut, you counter him with a heavy hand then uppercut with Ryu, or simply catch him. WTF!???

[Brian]

You guys are a joke in fighting games. If you don't want to play offensive, play defensive instead. When Sagat uppercut, you counter him with a heavy hand then uppercut with Ryu, or simply catch him. WTF!???

Amen. The usual jump kick+jump back and forth and jump kick forward always works ;p.

[Raidou]

Amen. The usual jump kick+jump back and forth and jump kick forward always works ;p.

Yup that works too. CtV and Luisfe probably have poor hand-eye co-ordination.

[Luisfe]

Yup that works too. CtV and Luisfe probably have poor hand-eye co-ordination.
Not really.

It's just TIGERUPYOURBUTT

[Cyrus the virus]

You guys are a joke in fighting games. If you don't want to play offensive, play defensive instead. When Sagat uppercut, you counter him with a heavy hand then uppercut with Ryu, or simply catch him. WTF!???

If you play defensive he doesn't approach you, he just throws Tigers at you. You can't interrupt his uppercut. You also can't 'catch' him in mid-move.

You should stop talking since you are very confused. Street Fighter II on Super Nintendo? Yes?

[Brian]

Not really.

It's just TIGERUPYOURBUTT

I was there too, luis. Arcade Sagat was annoying but it takes practice. If that dont work then whatever Rai said to everyone ;p. Also , Sagat on the SNES,GEN was about the same shit as the arcade version. Bugs and Fixes ? = BullShit.

[Raidou]

If you play defensive he doesn't approach you, he just throws Tigers at you. You can't interrupt his uppercut. You also can't 'catch' him in mid-move.

You should stop talking since you are very confused. Street Fighter II on Super Nintendo? Yes?

I'm not talking about SNES version of SFII. And I'm not talking about attacking him in mid-move. You attack him before he lands down dude. Arcade version yaa dude.

There is another way to kill off Sagat. Each time just before he tiger wave, use a squat heavy kick to bring him down. You can repeat this again and again until he KO. Is kind of similar to the way you can win MK1/ MK2. This strategy takes a lot of patience though because unlike MK, it is not continuous. Yup, is all about timing and practice. You guys who sux at Sagat is just unbelievable.

Luisfe and CtV, which character do you use against him? Sagat is such a push-over and over-rated. If you use Dhalsim, at least I can understand why you got uppercut frequently. Not able to defeat him with Ryu, Ken, or Guile is just plain silly.

[Cyrus the virus]

What are you talking about, before he lands!? Are you implying I block his uppercut in mid-air somehow? And you can't use your strategy against him because at that range, he can still (and does) uppercut you. He also doesn't approach if you crouch (as in MKII) because he can do Tigers along the ground. You don't know what you're talking about.

I typically fight him as Ken, but I also use Blanka and Guile.

[King Zeal]

Look, can we all just agree that Sagat is cheap, and the best way to beat him is to exploit CPU logic?

Hm? Hm? Everybody satisfied with that?

[Luisfe]

Look, can we all just agree that Sagat is cheap, and the best way to beat him is to exploit CPU logic?

Hm? Hm? Everybody satisfied with that?

I can agree wit hthat.

[Cyrus the virus]

I'm not even sure how to do that. I tend to just throw Hadokens until I overcome him.

[Raidou]

I'm not even sure how to do that. I tend to just throw Hadokens until I overcome him.

That my friend ... is a stupid strategy alright. No wonder you lose to Sagat. You can never be faster than him in throwing projectile! <--- Everyone knows this already!!!

[Cyrus the virus]

Holy **** you are annoying.

Besides, I tend to be faster which is why they eventually overcome him. And it's one of MANY strategies I use, it's just the only one he can't uppercut me during.

[Raidou]

You are just f**king phobic with his uppercut. I gave up explaining to you any further.

[Cyrus the virus]

Next time you should know what you're talking about before you offer to help :)

[Raidou]

I know what I'm talking about.

[Cyrus the virus]

You suggested tactics that are literally impossible in Street Fighter II.

[DrunkSwashbuckler]

Block tiger, walk, block tiger, walk, block tiger, walk, get close enough to hit him or wait for Tiger Uppercut, let him land, go nuts on him. Once you're in close, he'll either back up into a corner or you can throw him into one.

[Raidou]

You suggested tactics that are literally impossible in Street Fighter II.

Just admit it dude. You're a lousy fighter.

Block tiger, walk, block tiger, walk, block tiger, walk, get close enough to hit him or wait for Tiger Uppercut, let him land, go nuts on him. Once you're in close, he'll either back up into a corner or you can throw him into one.

Even football addict like Dreamless understand the meaning of counter attack.

[Brian]

Just admit it dude. You're a lousy fighter.


heheh. Then there's only one way to settle this. Through kaillera >=|.

[Luisfe]

heheh. Then there's only one way to settle this. Through kaillera >=|.

Shame sf2 IS NOT SUPPORTED on GGPO.

[Cyrus the virus]

Just admit it dude. You're a lousy fighter.

You can't block in mid-air or catch Sagat mid-move with an air throw in SFII holy god I hope you die.

And Dreamless's suggested tactic is what I do about half the time. Sagat is still ****ing annoying.

[Brian]

It's probably been 3 pages of this sagat bullshit. Rai, just accept the fact...or opinion that not everyone can easily catch him the way you do. You're better than everyone and that's it. How bout we talk about Vega and his high flying ?

Luisfe : Don't tell me you have a hard on for ggpo as well.. I'm sure SF2 works just fine on mame or kawaks.

[Cyrus the virus]

I mean it is not PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE to catch him you goddamn bastard. It is literally NOT POSSIBLE. AIIEEEE!!!

[Indigo]

Tengu was easy...

[Blackdragon]

Giagabowser in melee was no cakewalk, unless you had Jigglypuff, then it was easy, as well as ****ing hilarious to see him taken down by a Jigglypuff falling asleep.

[Luisfe]

It's probably been 3 pages of this sagat bullshit. Rai, just accept the fact...or opinion that not everyone can easily catch him the way you do. You're better than everyone and that's it. How bout we talk about Vega and his high flying ?

Luisfe : Don't tell me you have a hard on for ggpo as well.. I'm sure SF2 works just fine on mame or kawaks.

MAME and Kawaks are just the emulators. Of course it works fine ther. The deal with GGPO is that it has no input lag, and makes things playable that would be horrible on Kaillera. It's all about the netcode.

That being said, GGPO kicks more ass than Kaillera, and that's that.

[Indigo]

Giagabowser in melee was no cakewalk, unless you had Jigglypuff, then it was easy, as well as ****ing hilarious to see him taken down by a Jigglypuff falling asleep.


That thing was tough. I can't believe I beat it with Fox.

[Raidou]

I mean it is not PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE to catch him you goddamn bastard. It is literally NOT POSSIBLE. AIIEEEE!!!

Sagat laughs at your reaaaaaaaaaaallllllllllllly sloooooooooowwww reflects/ actions.

[Cyrus the virus]

It is not possible to catch Sagat while he's in the middle of an uppercut you whore.

Maybe I should work on my REFLECTS so his uppercut will bounce back upon him! Foreign guy!!!