The Incredible Hulk (2008)

[Phakiel]

So I was channel surfing before I remembered to catch the Gossip Girl rerun, and Hulk (2003) was on TNT or some other channel.

Then I remembered how much I hated that movie. It was simply horrible and full of fail for both straying pretty ****ing far from the Hulk and just overall film quality.

I normally dont fall asleep at movies, movies have always been loved by me and I hold them in great respect, but I totally dozed off in Hulk, and I was in College so it wasnt because of lack of sleep, it was because the movie was boring as shit.

So I m not glad that we are getting a reboot of the franchise and none other than Edward mother****ing Norton is gonna play Bruce Banner.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0800080/

Liv Tyler aside, Norton who is one of my favourite actors, will be joined by another of my favourite actors as the villain, Tim ****ing Roth starring as Emil Bronsky aka the Abomination even though the Director said they ae not calling him Abo because he says it sounds childish. **** him, but at least the movie looks promising. I am still wondering why in 2008 they still cant make a good looking Hulk with CGI, but my trust lies in Norton as Banner, Roth as a villain, and the fact that everybody is pretty much in the same ship which howls that the first Hulk film licked and sucked major gorilla sweaty balls.

Also I think the poster is flipping awesome

http://actualidadcomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/the-incredible-hulk-poster.jpg

DISCUSS!

[Sushi_b]

I'm pretty interested to see how the fight scenes play out in this movie. I'm a little unsure of the look of the Hulk in the preview and I hope he looks much cooler in the actual movie. As for the Abomination...needs more grey in that skin of his. Should have some good action overall though.

Aside: Am I the only one who didn't mind the other Hulk movie?

[Atlas]

Aside: Am I the only one who didn't mind the other Hulk movie?

Aside from being uber cheesy, I did like it.

This new one looks pretty danm cool, though. The fight scenes are what I'm really looking forward to. Norton is gonna do great.

[Raidou]

The trailer looks cool with two Hulks running towards each other for battle. I'll definitely watch this in the cinema when is out.

[Sushi_b]

The trailer looks cool with two Hulks running towards each other for battle. I'll definitely watch this in the cinema when is out.
That will probably be the next movie (Grey vs. Green hulk maybe?).
Abomination actually isn't a Hulk. He is a completely different character that is contaminated with Gamma radiation similar to the Hulk but is much stronger.

Abomination was only originally defeated by the Hulk when he was enraged and his power level grew to be much higher then Abominations. Not sure if that's how it will happen in the movie but it's possible.

[Jarrid]

Was not a big fan of Ang Lee before he made The Hulk, and I was not surprised I didn't like it. This Hulk however looks great, and I am really wanting to see it as soon as possible.

[Raidou]

That will probably be the next movie (Grey vs. Green hulk maybe?).
Abomination actually isn't a Hulk. He is a completely different character that is contaminated with Gamma radiation similar to the Hulk but is much stronger.

Wow, a Hulkamania fanatic fan spotted.

I didnt know there are so many other variation before this. i thought that bad Hulk is Grey Hulk.

[Phakiel]

Wow, a Hulkamania fanatic fan spotted.

I didnt know there are so many other variation before this. i thought that bad Hulk is Grey Hulk.

No, thats just general Hulk knowledge really. Maybe you were misguided, by the new Abomination look, the director said that he didnt want the original look in the movie as it looked cartoony.

Movie Abo

http://www.empireonline.com/images/features/hulk/8.jpg

Original Abo

http://roberthood.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/abomination-comic.gif

And Sush, I think its possible to have Hulk just get angrier until her totally rips Abo a new one, its not really that hard to show, and in the trailer they seem to be up to par. Plus they may have to adjust a couple things for Hulk to win. Abomination is always stronger than normal Hulk, but he is just one angry episode away from beating him.

[Atlas]

Abomination is always stronger than normal Hulk, but he is just one angry episode away from beating him.

Haha... so true.


Personally, I like the look of the original. With a few minor changed it could have worked out well. This new one looks like something out of Resident Evil.

[Cyrus the virus]

I mentioned this before, but I don't buy the Hulk as a character worthy of a movie. He's just not all that compelling, and his story's been done to death.

I think it's pretty lowbrow for an actor of Norton's ability. I'd have preferred to see him in something else.

[Less Than Liz]

I can't help but find the Hulk to be incredibly boring, so I'm not psyched about the film despite Norton being in it. Granted, I didn't read the comic but at least with other comic based movies I'm intrigued despite that. All The Hulk does is remind me of frozen corn. (http://www.bettycrocker.com/Products/Green-Giant/)

[Mark]

cool...but its already been done recently...they should move on and count there losses

[Phakiel]

Hmmm, could that be why Ang Lee's movie sucked? Is the Hulk really that boring? I dont know, Lee certainly did some disparate decissions to include in the movie like placing Banner's father there and turn him into Absorving Man, and adding mutant dogs.

I am gonna wait and see whats up though, but the seed of doubt has definetely been planted.

Well thank you Liz, you and your gigantic penis trump happiness once again.

[Less Than Liz]

Jealousy doesn't become you.

[Sushi_b]

Wow, a Hulkamania fanatic fan spotted.

I didnt know there are so many other variation before this. i thought that bad Hulk is Grey Hulk.

Grey Hulk wasn't really bad, he was intelligent. He knew what he was doing, but he was not as strong as the original (savage) Hulk. It would seem to be the general direction of where the movie series could go but not sure. Leader could be some how incorporated later on.

Really really old abomination

http://www.adherents.com:443/lit/comics/img/a/Abomination.jpg

[Atlas]

Your link was showing outside of the spoiler so I fixed it for ya. Just fyi. :)

Now that guy looks goofy. Haha.

[Phakiel]

Grey Hulk wasn't really bad, he was intelligent. He knew what he was doing, but he was not as strong as the original (savage) Hulk. It would seem to be the general direction of where the movie series could go but not sure. Leader could be some how incorporated later on.

Really really old abomination

http://www.adherents.com:443/lit/comics/img/a/Abomination.jpg

Actually, Tim Blake Nelson from Oh Brother Were Art thou is set to appear in this movie as Samuel Sterns so the sequel could feature the Leader.

[Sushi_b]

Thanks Atlus, I was trying to fix it and I was in a hurry to do so. Sorry about that.

Phak, that's an interesting little tid bit of info. It's not a bad idea to go into that direction as Leader is always a good foil for Hulk because it's brains vs. brawn. Have to wonder if they will be trying to make Hulk intelligent in the future movie(s).

They are also seemingly leading up to the avengers movie by having Iron Man appear in a quick cameo scene. Should be interesting to see how all these movies will tie into a larger film in the near future. Really feels similar to the approach Marvel took when it was originally creating it's character rosters and having everyone interact in the same environments.

[Phakiel]

I just came home from seeing and its baddass. Totally a worthy Hulk movie. I hope Ang Lee watches this and cries in shame.

The movie captures the whole feeling really well and Norton as Banner is ok. Roth and Hurt do their jobs well enough. Roth is downplayed a bit and Blonsky is not your typical Roth character. Hurt is actually a much better Thunderbolt than Sam Elliot as he showed the obsession Thaddeus has with Hulk. Elliot is much of a calm actor to deliver it.

Surprisingly, Tyler does a good job as Elizabeth Ross. I always hate the female leads in comic movies. I hated how MJ watson was played by Dunst, and I hated Katie Holmes's ...forgot her name. But Tyler does a much better job than Connelly, even though Connelly is much prettier.

Final Fight is actually much better than Iron Man's since I felt it longer and better made.

Now, spoilers


The movie begins with the credits being shown while the experiment that made the Hulk is seen through flashbacks. Then it goes 5 years later and resumes at Brazil where Banner works in a bottling company while he chats about a cure with somebody named Mr. Blue, while Banner is Mr. Green.

Some blood gets spilled on one of the soda bottles which an old man drinks (cameo by Stan Lee) so thunderbolt finds out about Banner and assembles an elite unit to hunt it down which includes Blonsky. They get to Banner and a chase ensues which could have been a nice free running sequence but wasnt, but then again we are dealing with Banner. Banner encounters some ruffians who work at the plant and previously had their intentions on this ridiculously pretty coworker trumped by banner. The ruffians corner banner who still being chased by the military unit. He goes mad, and unleashes hell and leaves Blonsky intrigued and eager to fight it again.

Banner works his way from Guatemala were he wakes up a day after, up to virginia where he finds Betty Ross. Thunderbolt Attacks Banner while he is about to leave on a train to find Mr. Blue (Betty had some data on a flash memory with the experiment info which can help Blue as he has found some sort of antidote).

This is were the movie shines. I finally got what I wanted in Hulk from 2003. Thunderbolt unleashes all he can give to stop Hulk. He pulls out guns, a souped up Blonsky, a .50 caliber mounted machine gun, sonic cannons and a helicopter. This is also where i found a fault. See, whenever the Hulk got though a line of defense, say the .50 caliber, Thunderbolt would yell at his walkie for the next attack. This felt unnatural. Now it is possible since you can have all the attacks on reserve to go into action when the previous one fails. But Hurt here just shouts "Where are the goddamn canons" or "Where are the helicopters" and you would think that the units werent just sitting there waiting until Thunderbolt would yell at them. They will be on standby but Thaddeus would have at least a strategy and wont yell the next attack.

Other than that, the scene delivered. I always have this thing about watching Hulk take damage and hits and be almost subdued, but then just find a way to wreak shit up. This happens here. At one point he is hit by two supersonic canons. First he is down with them but then he shields with some metal pieces, hurls one of the pieces to one of the canons, rips it in half, then pounds on the other. Pure Hulk madness, loved it. Blonsky is hit against a tree in the end breaking every bone in his body. he recovers and gets injected again with gamma juice.

Anyway, Banner escapes with Betty and set off to find Mr. Blue. At this point I thought Mr. Blue was Doc Samson but through the army's hacking they find that Mr. Blue is Samuel Sterns played my Tim Blake Nelson.

Banner and Ross find Sterns and proceed to have an experiment to subdue Hulk. This succeeds and Banner is able to return to normal quickly after transformation. Here we are treated at how Sterns feels this should be explored and used to help humanity cure diseases.

Then Thunderbolt attacks and captures Banner. Blonsky is left with Sterns and makes him give him a dose of Banner Juice and eventually turns into the Abomination. Also here we see that during Abo's escape some juice falls into an open head wound Sterns gets and his upper head begins to mutate foretelling the birth of The Leader.

Abo is destroying everything in NYC and Banner decides he is he only one capable of stopping him so he goes, turns into the Hulk and the Final Fight begins.

The final fight is badass. They break everything and its just what you expected from a Hulk vs Abomination fight. Here is another good moment. They decided to include three Hulk trademarks. At one point Hulk gets hit really hard by Abo and actually gets dizzy. So he grabs a car, breaks it in two and makes brass knuckles from it and then attacks Abo, hard.

Later on, Abo crashes the chopper where Thunderbolt and Betty were at and an explosion happens due to gas leaks. When its explodes Hulk does his clap attack and extinguishes the flames.

Then finally, Abo is hurling this gigantic metal thing with a chain and Hulk goes and says "HULK....SMASH" and pounds on the ground (i think the original has him pound with his fists but who cares) with his feet and causes tremors and make Abo lose balance and get hit by the metal thing then Hulk goes apeshit and beats him almost choking him to death but Betty stops him, because she is a **** and because Hulk is not supposed to kill Abomination.

Then Hulk jumps and escapes. Movie ends with Robert Downey Jr. visiting Thunderbolt and saying something about assembling a team (the Avengers).



Anyway, go see it, if its better than Iron Man would only be dictated by which super hero you prefer but then again it didnt had Hulkbusters so maybe Iron Mar beats at being more baddassly techy. Its much better than X-men 3, Spiderman 3 or any of the Fantastic Four, but then again those movies sucked. Also, no Rick Jones here, thank god. I hated that little shit.

Also they showed a new Dark Knight trailer which is the best one I have seen yet as it features more Joker. Maybe Ledger did pull it out.

Cant wait for Dark Knight.

[Polygon]

I'm not at all excited about this movie. I just don't see the draw after the first one.

[Phakiel]

Thats because the first one sucked balls. This one is not connected to the first movie at all, you did know that right?

[Polygon]

Yes.

I'm just not motivated to see it.

[Hyde]

Sadly, this one wasn't really much better than the Ang Lee one. Hell, when Ed Norton himself won't promote the movie because he hated the final version of it(he helped write this version) you know something is up, and now having seen it...

....I'm glad I didn't waste the money to go to a theater.

I tend to agree with alot of people in this thread: Hulk kinda sucks. His story is barely compelling, and I like Bruce Banner alot better than The Hulk.

The Hulk just....isn't a superhero. He's a mistake and he's barely controllable.

Now...when we see the movie Iron Man vs. Hulk and Tony Stark bust out the Hulkbuster Armorsuit...

....THAT I'll get excited for.

Until then?

Bring on The Dark Knight, bitches.

[Cyrus the virus]

Dark Knight is going to be fantastic (hoping). I don't know if it can compare to Begins. But I'm sure anxious to find out :D

[Sushi_b]

Sadly, this one wasn't really much better than the Ang Lee one. Hell, when Ed Norton himself won't promote the movie because he hated the final version of it(he helped write this version) you know something is up, and now having seen it...

....I'm glad I didn't waste the money to go to a theater.

I tend to agree with alot of people in this thread: Hulk kinda sucks. His story is barely compelling, and I like Bruce Banner alot better than The Hulk.

The Hulk just....isn't a superhero. He's a mistake and he's barely controllable.

Now...when we see the movie Iron Man vs. Hulk and Tony Stark bust out the Hulkbuster Armorsuit...

....THAT I'll get excited for.

Until then?

Bring on The Dark Knight, bitches.

Dr. Manhattan was a "Mistake" as well but he is a vital part of the watchmen series. He wasn't suppose to happen.

The Hulk has undergone so many transformations from being "uncontrollable" to "intelligent" to "savage" and such. He is a compelling character because he persona changes so much. Banner is part of that equasion but not the whole part.

Hulk could see action against Iron Man in the future, but it's hard to say. Hasn't the Hulk just simply destroyed the Hulkbuster every time anyways?

As for Dark Knight, seems alright, I think I was more interested in it last year but as it draws closer, I've become more lethargic with it. I'll still see it but I'm not exactly sure what to expect.

[Raidou]

Reminder: The only Hulk who is a true hero is Hulk Hogan.

[Hyde]

Reminder: The only Hulk who is a true hero is Hulk Hogan.

I want to hit you so hard right now.

[Indigo]

I want to hit you so hard right now.

Haha.

And the Hulk has always been one of my least favorite super heroes.

[Brian]

Ouch. I guess that leaves me as the only one who appreciated this movie. Everything was in place, thank god they didn't drag the experiment too long since it only took a matter of minutes til he was stranded in brazil. Fight scenes were good. Tim Roth did a kick ass job as Blonsky.

Honestly, a second Hulk movie isn't really needed since its in the same universe as Iron man while he's gonna take on the great Mandarin (second movie). Bruce Banner on the other hand continues his research for the cure. All this ties up to the creation of the Ultimate Avengers (Ultimates). So we'll probably expect movies between Iron Man 2 and 3(basically the Avengers) like Captain America and Thor. I'm not sure about Black Widow,Wasp and Giant Man but a few cameos wouldn't be bad either ;p. It's all up to the director.


Back on topic : Hulk was an awesome movie. It deserves a blue ray copy just as IronMan does when they come out.

[Hyde]

Honestly, a second Hulk movie isn't really needed since its in the same universe as Iron man while he's gonna take on the great Mandarin (second movie). Bruce Banner on the other hand continues his research for the cure. All this ties up to the creation of the Ultimate Avengers (Ultimates). So we'll probably expect movies between Iron Man 2 and 3(basically the Avengers) like Captain America and Thor. I'm not sure about Black Widow,Wasp and Giant Man but a few cameos wouldn't be bad either ;p. It's all up to the director

I'm guessing you missed the Captain America cameo in Hulk, huh?

Anyway, Captain America and Thor are in development to be filmed and released in the next 2 years.

Ant man too.

[Sushi_b]

The idea is supposed be the that the Avengers will be focused on Thor, Cap and Iron Man specifically. I don't know how that factors the other characters onto the team in the future but it really depends on how the other movies play out. It's an interesting idea to lead up to the big Avengers movie, but will all this planning just end up blowing up in their faces? I'm a little worried that we will be really tired of these characters by the time the Avengers movie rolls out.

[Brian]

If they do it right that is. Alot of crazy events are happening in the marvel universe (after civil war and wwh). Coming up with an easy chapter once a month,is that easy for marvel. But anyway, I just don't like how Norton ended up saying that he left out alot of holes on purpose for this movie like Sam Sterns' accident (which turns him into Leader and a villian afterwards). If there's no motivation, then we wont see light of a next Hulk. Once again, it leads to how the directors want it. If they were able to fool the whole world with Spiderman 3..then anythings possible.

[Devil King]

I want to see this movie. Me and a bunch of freinds are supposed to go see it this Friday.

I actually didn't think the first Hulk movie was that bad.

[Brian]

Not at all. Just that alot of people didn't expect hulk to look like a giant piece of bright lemon. I do admit that I loved how the switched scenes in comic format >=3.

[Phakiel]

That was cute but overall Lee's movie sucked ass.

The new CGI hulk aint that better than 2003's. I still dont understand why they couldnt put more effort into the model, it looked like a ps2 cgi image of Hulk and greasy, really greasy.

[Cyrus the virus]

Whatever happened to that Iron Fist movie that was in development?

Also me wants a new Flash movie with Wally.

[Phakiel]

They say that Ryan Reynolds has expressed interest in being The Flash in a movie adaptation, I sure as hell would watch that, seeing Ryan Reynolds in a skin tight outfit, hmmm.

Even if it is Flash, but its better to go with Barry Allen before his death, Wally West is too much of a dorky name.

[Hyde]

They say that Ryan Reynolds has expressed interest in being The Flash in a movie adaptation, I sure as hell would watch that, seeing Ryan Reynolds in a skin tight outfit, hmmm.

Even if it is Flash, but its better to go with Barry Allen before his death, Wally West is too much of a dorky name.

Reynolds could make any name work. Just....let's pray they don't give his outfit a makeover akin to Daredevil's.

[Sushi_b]

I like the Flash and all but Renolds has also expressed intrest in doing a Deadpool movie. I would much rather see him fill in that role. I've read that he has a small cameo in the upcoming Wolverine movie as Deadpool so maybe they will bring out a DP spin off. That would be sweet.