Marijuana

[Jarrid]

I'm going to go ahead and link this article: http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSN1231013620080513?rpc=92

I want to point out the average of 78 to 350 joints per pot smoker. Um, ok. Wow. I am a chain-smoker of cigarettes, and I only smoke around 140-200 a week. Smoking that many joints. Holy shit. I'm sure there are some people that can smoke that many but wow. That's incredible.

Anyway, besides that, whether you smoke pot or not, what do you feel about the substance? Should it stay as an illegal plant to possess, or do you believe it should be legal?

I believe it is causing way too many problems being illegal than legal. I feel it can ruin a person's life because I have a friend that has that problem, but for just people that want to smoke it occasionally, I see no problem at all. I regard alcohol abuse a much more serious problem than marijuana use.

[Mark]

yeah I agree, this whole thing is getting way out of proportion...but if they legalized it it will be taxed the hell out of it. cigarette prices should more then likely go down in price, and big tobacco companies will all place funding into making filtered joints that are worse then cigarettes because of the additives added to them and sold in packs of 20.

[LagDragon]

Just as a reminder, you can't talk about your own specific drug use on the forums. I forget why, but rules are rules!

Also, Marijuana was decriminalized in Canada a while ago.

[Mark]

I dont do drugs. im in the military and get drug tested randomly. I wouldnt dare touch the stuff again until im out. I care about my job too much to just throw it away so i can just get high.

[Jarrid]

Just as a reminder, you can't talk about your own specific drug use on the forums. I forget why, but rules are rules!

Also, Marijuana was decriminalized in Canada a while ago.

Wow, really? I do not smoke pot anymore, so I am not really worried about that, but I did not know that we had that rule. I forgot where I put my AllRPG userguide.

[Atlas]

I didn't know you could smoke pots.

[Mary]

I dont do drugs. im in the military and get drug tested randomly. I wouldnt dare touch the stuff again until im out. I care about my job too much to just throw it away so i can just get high.

None of that would be an issue if it were legal.

I'm definetly a big supporter for it being legal. A big positive that people would see from its legalization is it would be easier to identify those who are letting it negatively mess up their life and get them help. I think pot is like Alcohol, it is fine in moderation but some people get a mental addiction to it and let it **** up their lives. These people are few in my experience, but it's hard to get them help for fear of them getting a police record.

[Atlas]

Even though I do not smoke the reefer, I just think that it being illegal is kinda useless at this point. If not now, then soon reefer will be legalized. If it is not, then the government is really going to get hit by the peoples.

The extreme right wing will probably help keep it illegal for a while, though.

[Cyrus the virus]

That's a pretty lame rule we have.

Anyhow, I don't care if it's legal or not. Both options have their pros and cons. I wouldn't mind it being legal if it was relegated the same way cigarettes are, and people were unable to smoke in bars/restaurants.

[Mary]

That's a pretty lame rule we have.

Anyhow, I don't care if it's legal or not. Both options have their pros and cons. I wouldn't mind it being legal if it was relegated the same way cigarettes are, and people were unable to smoke in bars/restaurants.

What's the difference between a cig and a joint being smoked in a bar?

[Cyrus the virus]

It's illegal to smoke cigarettes inside establishments in Quebec, so as long as joints were treated the same way (I don't see why they wouldn't be), cool.

[Mary]

Oh! Ok. Yeah, here you can smoke in bars or places reserved for 18 year olds and older only. I agree, I think smoking is smoking whether it's tobacco or marijuana.

[Atlas]

Oh! Ok. Yeah, here you can smoke in bars or places reserved for 18 year olds and older only. I agree, I think smoking is smoking whether it's tobacco or marijuana.

Are you really saying that because smoke is conjured by both cigs as well as weed that there's not difference between the two?

I don't have a problem with it being legal, but there definitely is a huge difference between the two.

[LagDragon]

I'm guessing that she's saying there shouldn't be smoking of any kind in establishments. If they're gonna ban one, they have to ban both.

Obviously they're not the same thing, silly billy.

[Atlas]

Unless you roll them up together, right? A taste of two worlds, even. I know you enjoy things outside the box, willy nilly.

[Less Than Liz]

Legalize it.

[Mark]

Legalize it.

pot head! o_O

haha j/k

[Jarrid]

Liz would be the last person here I could see smoking pot.

[Mark]

I think she is an in the closet pot head. :p

[Jarrid]

Haha, I highly doubt that. If she is, my odin. I would be completely speechless.

[Mark]

she hides it from us because she doesn't wanna share. I driven through Rochester a buncha times...its nothing but fields of purple sticky punch.

wouldn't surprise me if she was the leader of the pack. oh yeah drug lord Lizzy.

[Matron]

My parents always smoked, I don't see anything wrong with it. I'd much rather be around a pothead than a drunk. I do think it's stupid that with the overcrowding in prisons right now, and the amount of people in there for pot, that they don't decriminalize it already.

[Mary]

I'm guessing that she's saying there shouldn't be smoking of any kind in establishments. If they're gonna ban one, they have to ban both.

Obviously they're not the same thing, silly billy.

Indeed I did. Thanks for clarifying for me. I apparently suck at wording things.

And Atlas, people do mix the two together. I hear it's a different type of high. It's very common though. Definetly not the best of both worlds, more like unhappiness. Or so I've heard anyway.

[Atlas]

Oh, I know. I used to smoke pot all of the time before I sobered up. I thought combining it with tobacco was just horrid.

[Jarrid]

A spliff is what I believe it is called unless my terminology has diminished.

[Less Than Liz]

Yes, I am Pothead McPotface. Where's the "Art of Sarcasm" thread when you need it?

[Jarrid]

Sarcasm? My people do not believe in such a thing. From now on, you are Pothead McPotFace.

*bows down*

[Tenacious P]

i should really start smoking weed.

[Atlas]

A spliff is what I believe it is called unless my terminology has diminished.

That sounds about right. Maybe we should ask Liz McPotace.

[Cyrus the virus]

Here, people call a regular joint a spliff, too. Their terminology is all over the damn place.

[Matron]

I always thought a regular one was a spliff and the big honking huge ones were blunts.

[Jarrid]

It really means a marijuana cigarette like a joint for example. I suppose that is what we call it here when tobacco is involved.

[Blackdragon]

I really don't care about legalizing it or otherwise. It, along with cigarettes are a pointless and wasteful endevour as far as I'm concerned. Keeping it illegal won't stop its use, and legalizing it wouldn't help the situation either.

[Jarrid]

I do not see how legalizing would not help the current situation out.

[Blackdragon]

I do not see how legalizing would not help the current situation out.

They'd still be smoking the crap, regardless. People would just be more open with it. Smoking not only affects you, but also others around you. I'm just against its existence for the most part, so I have strong feelings about it. The same goes with cigarettes and alcohol.

[Jarrid]

I suppose in that sense, but I was thinking more of on a bigger scale.

[Matron]

I was raised around it, and I never really saw how it affected me. Now the alcohol and the heroin, that affected me. Of course the money spent on weed could have better gone to buy me stuff, but otherwise, I didn't see how it affected me. Like I said, I'll take my dad on pot any day of the week over the alternatives.

[Powerslave]

Oh, I know. I used to smoke pot all of the time before I sobered up. I thought combining it with tobacco was just horrid.

But it makes it so much better!

[LagDragon]

Yeah, shotties are usually the best way to utilize your weed. If you're running low or something. Just pack a little bit of tobacco but mostly weed and voila, instant stonage.

[moogle]

Just as a reminder, you can't talk about your own specific drug use on the forums. I forget why, but rules are rules!
I must have missed that memo. When was this?

[LagDragon]

Do you remember when Kyle took a shitfit and deleted his own account?

Just before that.

[charolastra00]

Another benefit of legalizing pot would be allowing hemp to be grown in the US. That's probably the greater issue at stake. Hemp can be used for paper, rope, clothing, and many other uses that would be at a severe competition with the cotton and wood industries.

[Atlas]

Do you remember when Kyle took a shitfit and deleted his own account?

Just before that.

That is amazing... Amazingly retarded.

:P Talk about fighting for your rights.

[LagDragon]

Another benefit of legalizing pot would be allowing hemp to be grown in the US. That's probably the greater issue at stake. Hemp can be used for paper, rope, clothing, and many other uses that would be at a severe competition with the cotton and wood industries.

Translation: hug a tree.

Haha, kidding. You make a good point.

[Mary]

A lot of people also think that it was the wood and cotton industries that helped make marijuana illegal in the first place.

[Hyde]

Some of you guys are pushing the line on what we allow here...keep it clean....keep it WELL away from giving advice on how to do stuff and promotion of the drug.

As for my personal opinion, hell....you should all know by now:

I'm vehemently against the usage of ANY substance that can alter your inhibitions, your reasoning and your perception of the world. That being said, I do drink, but I rarely drink to excess. I was blessed with the ability to be cognitive even when I am drunk.

My trouble mainly stems from my having grown up with a father who is a drug addict and drunk, so.....there you go...

[charolastra00]

Translation: hug a tree.

Haha, kidding. You make a good point.

A lot of people also think that it was the wood and cotton industries that helped make marijuana illegal in the first place.

It's half environmental and half economical. Think about it- it's pretty labor intensive to grow cotton and trees take a long time to grow. Hemp can be grown much cheaper and faster than either of our current alternatives. So yeah, it's more environmentally friendly than chopping down a hillside in order to make memos, but it also is also provides a cheaper alternative to what we already have without skrimping on quality. I'm all for that.

Plus, pot. Yeah.

[freeflow^]

There are many aspects to having legalized pot (in Canada) that scare me. It's price will be governed by the well, government, and people that deal outside of government control will probably face harsher penalties than they have now. I don't like government control over products. Soon activists will petition that smoking weed can cause an accumulation of tar in the lungs, which can lead to cancer, and the government will put a tax on it, it raising it's price to ridiculous levels. It's level of THC will drop, and the quality will dimish. Unless we let private business govern pot (which will never happen completely) then I fear it will just become a big money grab scam. Decriminalization is the way to go. That way we have the unmotivated, lathargic people free of charges, and living comfortably in their stinky basements. :)

[Matron]

Some of you guys are pushing the line on what we allow here...keep it clean....keep it WELL away from giving advice on how to do stuff and promotion of the drug.

As for my personal opinion, hell....you should all know by now:

I'm vehemently against the usage of ANY substance that can alter your inhibitions, your reasoning and your perception of the world. That being said, I do drink, but I rarely drink to excess. I was blessed with the ability to be cognitive even when I am drunk.

My trouble mainly stems from my having grown up with a father who is a drug addict and drunk, so.....there you go...


You and I seem to have a LOT in common, at least as far as how we were raised and how it affected us. I salute you for coming out of it with what seems to be the right attitude, rather than the "if you can't beat 'em.." mentality that so many others seem to have.

[Hyde]

You and I seem to have a LOT in common, at least as far as how we were raised and how it affected us. I salute you for coming out of it with what seems to be the right attitude, rather than the "if you can't beat 'em.." mentality that so many others seem to have.

Yeah. Fun, huh? :/

[Matron]

Oh yeah, it's so much fun, never knowing just who's going to walk in the door every evening.

[moogle]

Do you remember when Kyle took a shitfit and deleted his own account?

Just before that.
I missed that as well. Man, I wondered what happened to him. That's a shame, but I don't blame him for leaving, if it was in fact due to this "policy" change. Reminds me of when they changed the rules to disallow even speaking of ROMs or emulation in general. BTW, the new ePSXe recently came o--BANNED


Haha, all in good fun, right?

[Hyde]

I missed that as well. Man, I wondered what happened to him. That's a shame, but I don't blame him for leaving, if it was in fact due to this "policy" change. Reminds me of when they changed the rules to disallow even speaking of ROMs or emulation in general. BTW, the new ePSXe recently came o--BANNED


Haha, all in good fun, right?

That isn't specifically why Kyle left. It was a lot of stuff.

As for the other shit, you guys gotta realize....on a legit site that answers to marketing, to advertising, and to publishers....we have to present a professional face and abide by their rules.

[moogle]

That isn't specifically why Kyle left. It was a lot of stuff.

As for the other shit, you guys gotta realize....on a legit site that answers to marketing, to advertising, and to publishers....we have to present a professional face and abide by their rules.
I totally understand. Especially since the site has financial troubles, I imagine it may be difficult to get advertising that doesn't have strict guidelines for what they will advertise with. I didn't realize until recently that even Google adsense has guidelines as far as content. I guess I'm just conditioned to sites that allow true free speech, though.

[Less Than Liz]

What are their rules?

[Cyrus the virus]

I don't think advertisers give a flying **** about what users say on a website's forum. People do drugs. I would suggest that most people in their 20's do.

And what kind of bitch is AllRPG to give in to that kind of shit, anyway? Are we funded by the Vatican?

[Void]

It should be legal. I'm not a chronic, but I like to have a joint once in a blue moon. Does that make me evil?

Yes. Yes it does.

[Atlas]

It should be legal. I'm not a chronic, but I like to have a joint once in a blue moon. Does that make me evil?

Yes. Yes it does.

I still <3 you, Tom. Always and forever. High or low. Void or filled.

[Serge]

Our policy on drug talk will have to be revised. While I agree that talking about Marijuana, is pretty harmless, especially since we do talk about drinking quite often. Of course then you have to lump it in with other drugs. Personally, I do think that pot isn't any worst then alcohol, but I'm sure there are people out there that would make the same argument about other drugs.

[Atlas]

I like what Dave Attell said once, "Pot's illegal, but it's not that illegal."

[moogle]

Our policy on drug talk will have to be revised. While I agree that talking about Marijuana, is pretty harmless, especially since we do talk about drinking quite often. Of course then you have to lump it in with other drugs. Personally, I do think that pot isn't any worst then alcohol, but I'm sure there are people out there that would make the same argument about other drugs.
Actually, I think the evidence suggests that marijuana is one of the safest drugs out there, in any sense of the word. It simply gets lumped together with all other illegal drugs because, well, it's illegal. Each drug has its own upsides and downsides, and I think it may be fair to say the risks involved in most, not all, illegal drugs outweigh the benefits. And by benefits I don't mean legitimate health benefits, for the most part. But regardless of all that, the way I see it, it's not fair to make any drug illegal, as it comes down to personal choice and responsibility (at the risk of sounding too libertarian).