To Kill, Or Not To Kill

[Atlas]

Would you be able to kill somebody if it meant your family, friends, or precious materials?

Maybe the latter can be disposed of, but the first two definitely pose good, arguable reasons killing someone would be reasonable.

Would you?

[Mary]

huh?

if you're saying what I think you're saying then yes, i could kill someone if it meant saving a friend or family member as long as i didn't get put in jail for it.

[Abominari]

Yes, if the situation called for it.

[Indigo]

I don't know...

[Cyrus the virus]

I think I could kill over much less, actually.

[Void]

Maybe the latter can be disposed of, but the first two definitely pose good, arguable reasons killing someone would be reasonable.

It ain't homocide if it's in self defense! Actually, in Canada it's extremely hard to win a self defense case. Strange, that in Canada, if you commit a small crime, you get punished ridiculously, and if you commit a huge crime you just do a few years.

But yes. I would kill to protect important people in my life.

[UO_Duck]

I think I could kill over much less, actually.

[Matron]

I wouldn't kill over things, nothing I own is worth another life, or time in prison if it came to that.

I would kill to protect my family though. If someone hurt my kids in some way, yeah, I could kill.

[Devil King]

I would.

[King Zeal]

Definitely.

[Brokensouls91]

I honestly don't know...I'm going to basic next summer, so I guess I'll have to learn to kill. But in defense of my family...I don't know, I'd hope to try not to, but I guess if the situation called for it, and it was the only way to stop them...Maybe...Ask me after I've done it...

And Cyrus...I'm sorry, but a statement makes me respect you a whole lot less...To claim to be a ble to kill for less than defense of a loved one or yourself, either shows you as a killer, or just a child who cannot grasp what exactly it means to take a life...

[Polygon]

I would most certainly kill if it meant protecting my family or friends. However, if someone broke into my home and even if their intent was simply to rob me I would not have any problem making sure they didn't leave.

[Powerslave]

I'd rather put them in jail, but if it really came down to kill or die, I'd kill.

[Electric Banana]

I'd kill Carrot Top for a Klondike Bar...

[Matron]

Hell, I'd kill him for free. That man is one scary looking dude.

[Siyama]

Would you be able to kill somebody if it meant your family, friends, or precious materials?

Maybe the latter can be disposed of, but the first two definitely pose good, arguable reasons killing someone would be reasonable.

Would you?

Depending on the situation.

If the person in question was aiming a gun at someone you love, and only way to bring him down was to kill him, I could take the shot.

However, if he was just being berserked and trying to hurt others by sere physical brutality, breaking an arm or a leg could be enough to disable him without killing him.

Therefore, killing a person is not necessary the only way. It depends on the situations.

[Cyrus the virus]

And Cyrus...I'm sorry, but a statement makes me respect you a whole lot less...To claim to be a ble to kill for less than defense of a loved one or yourself, either shows you as a killer, or just a child who cannot grasp what exactly it means to take a life...

So you're going to basic to learn to kill because your boss tells you to, right? Unless you seriously consider what you're doing to be the same as shooting a person who is in the process of trying to kill your family.

That aside, I don't really think you're the end-all authority on what makes killing someone okay.

[Atlas]

So you're going to basic to learn to kill because your boss tells you to, right? Unless you seriously consider what you're doing to be the same as shooting a person who is in the process of trying to kill your family.

That aside, I don't really think you're the end-all authority on what makes killing someone okay.

Your statement actually was very flippant and really not necessary; so I'll have to side with Broken on that one.

[Brokensouls91]

I'm going to basic to learn how to protect a country and government that I have been raised along side with. Like I said before I announced my dislike for children who think they can kill, I have no idea if I could pull the trigger. So I am hardly an end-all authority of killing.

[Siyama]

I'm going to basic to learn how to protect a country and government that I have been raised along side with. Like I said before I announced my dislike for children who think they can kill, I have no idea if I could pull the trigger. So I am hardly an end-all authority of killing.

The people are the Government, not the Political Parties.

If you wish to protect the people, there are many ways to do that other than pulling the trigger. You can become a doctor and find cure which ails your people (and the World). You can become Engineer and build remarkable buildings. You can become scientist and invent Clean and Free Energy for your people (and the World).

Killing others for your people are merely an excuse for your tendency to inflict hurt upon others.

"War does not make one great" - Yoda. :)

[JustATemp]

i think i would try to find a way to not kill them, like break arms or legs, but yeah, i think i'd be able to. undoubtedly i'd be a wreck afterwards, though. destroying a life is not something i can do lightly, and anyone who says they wouldn't care needs to get their head out of their ass and stop trying to look cool.

[Cyrus the virus]

How is answering the thread's question unnecessary?

I'm going to basic to learn how to protect a country and government that I have been raised along side with. Like I said before I announced my dislike for children who think they can kill, I have no idea if I could pull the trigger. So I am hardly an end-all authority of killing.

You believe that killing for your government is on par with killing in defense of your family?

[DrunkSwashbuckler]

**** the government.

[Electric Banana]

Hell, I'd kill him for free. That man is one scary looking dude.
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh9/electricbanana/carrottop.jpg

[JustATemp]

is it just me or does that look eerily like steven tyler...?

[Brokensouls91]

The people are the Government, not the Political Parties.

If you wish to protect the people, there are many ways to do that other than pulling the trigger. You can become a doctor and find cure which ails your people (and the World). You can become Engineer and build remarkable buildings. You can become scientist and invent Clean and Free Energy for your people (and the World).

Killing others for your people are merely an excuse for your tendency to inflict hurt upon others.

"War does not make one great" - Yoda. :)

I'm not smart enough to be a doctor, or an engineer, or a scientist. But your point has holes. Who protects them? Doctors are no good if they get killed, neither are engineers or scientist. While the need of a weapon is a sad spectacle, the need still exist, and if no one can step up and use their weapon to defend people? Calling my father's job, and job of his father nothing but an excuse to hurt people is...Well...I won't use every word that comes to mind right now.

I have spent my entire life in the government. I have lived in government housing all my life, I have attended government schools on a government base, and I hold a government sponsored job. All my life I've been surrounded by people who do different jobs to help people. And in every place there are always SF sqaudrons. The SF sqaudrons are just like police for your towns and cities. Except they are trained to actually fight a war. They are essentially the soldiers of the Air Force.

But I suppose that would mean very little to you. You would rather the gates to the bases were opened so civilians like yourself could walk right in and do as you please. Well today's world is full of people who would kill me, just for military affiliation, and you, just for political affiliation. Hell, I doubt there isn't anyone on this forum who wouldn't be killed just for something they can't control.

Like it or not, our world is a piece of shit right now, and if your thinking is limited to only the defense of your family. Then you've got a long fight ahead of you, because there are a lot of people out there who would kill you if they got the chance.

[Cyrus the virus]

Okay, so here's where I'm confused. You confronted me because I suggested I could kill for less than 'in defense of my family', but I still think that going to war to 'protect the good guys' is less reasonable than literally shooting someone who is directly threatening your family.

[Indigo]

Just to be clear here... In war there is no such thing as "the good guys".

[Brokensouls91]

Let me sum it up for you Cyrus. I have no respect for someone who thinks they can kill for less than a dire situation. Especially if they haven't killed before.

[Cyrus the virus]

Just to be clear here... In war there is no such thing as "the good guys".

Hence the quotations.

Let me sum it up for you Cyrus. I have no respect for someone who thinks they can kill for less than a dire situation. Especially if they haven't killed before.

I could not possibly care less about your respect. I'm asking you to back yourself up, so I can maybe understand your point of view better.

[Brokensouls91]

All I did was express my dislike for one who thinks they can kill. You have expressed yourself as someone who thinks they can, not for defense, but as you put it "I think I could kill over much less, actually." Now, while you ask me to explain my point of view, I would hope it would be fairly easy to understand but as it is fairly obvious I'm dealing with someone who probably has no experience with violence, or wartime survivors. Maybe I should spell it out.

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[Atlas]

Hence the quotations.



I could not possibly care less about your respect. I'm asking you to back yourself up, so I can maybe understand your point of view better.

You really remind me of Jack from Lord of the Flies with your mentality.


Creeepy.

[Cyrus the virus]

Expressing your dislike for someone who thinks they can kill is kind of hypocritical, right?

So if I feel I could kill a person over much less than threatening my family, you equate that to whimsical murder? Try not going to that extreme, and put some thought toward other possibilities.

I'm going to assume you're 16 or 17 due to your username. What in the **** do you think you know about life, death, war, protecting your kids or the importance of any one of those things?

Atlas: What mentality? All I said was that it wouldn't take my family being threatened for me to potentially kill somebody.

[Atlas]

Atlas: What mentality? All I said was that it wouldn't take my family being threatened for me to potentially kill somebody.

I know what you meant, Cyrus. It's just that you left way too much room for interpretation and thus it didn't come across distinctively. Just seemed a bit flippant.

You are your own person and you have to make your own decisions, but when you don't explain a comment like that in further detail, someone like Broken, who obviously has a lot of respect for the gun, might just get offended.

But hey, you don't give a **** who gets offended, right?

[Brokensouls91]

Yeah...You're right, I am 16 or 17. And my knowledge of life is limited to my years. My knowledge of death, well, that's another thing that's limited to my years. And war? Well, that's easy. Try living with a man who has fought in two US declared wars, and two international conflicts, or taking care of a man who can't sleep at night because he spent years in a hell hole watching his friends disappear in a forest he could barely see his hand in, and then that forest burn in an effort to kill an enemy he wasn't sure was there. I don't have kids, so defense of the family is something that only falls upon me when my dad leaves, so you can say I know little of life, death and defense of a family. But I've learned enough about war to last me several lifetimes. Ask anyone who has helped or lived with a vietnam vet. The way they scream, or cry? It's terrifying to know that something out there could make those men cry like that...

[Cyrus the virus]

Okay, so can we now declare that there's a distinct difference between killing a person and going to Vietnam and experiencing a scenario that is scarring in multiple ways? Shooting a rapist and watching your friends die around you are quite different.

But yeah. I like to purposely not elaborate because sometimes we get a discussion going :p

[Void]

But hey, you don't give a **** who gets offended, right?

For his sake, I hope not.

[Atlas]

Hahaha...

[Jarrid]

"All that comes into being is worthy of destruction." - (Mephistopheles) Faust

Ahh, the dance of Shiva. Would I kill? Sure. I will avoid it as much as possible, and that includes everything from animals to plants. However, I believe that there is no possible end to the cycle of death and rebirth, so if I do kill something, it had already existed before and will continue to exist.

[Mark]

I would. I dont care what people say about me or any of that, but when my family or close friends are involved in something then I back them up to the end. if something threatened that to the point of life having to be ripped asunder then I would give my life or take a life to protect it.